They're not thick enough to keep battleship caliber shells out. These are 180 shells fired at 15km locked onto the stationary Fuso bot. Her rudder shift time of 15.4s is the most remarkable thing about her and not in a good way. It's slow. But given CA's epic history, it does irritate me to see so much love lavished on their napkinwaffe RU BB and KM CV lines, while CA gets this treatment. You can also forget about successfully kiting or disengaging when things turn sour. In closing, I should stress again: Florida is fine. She's not broken. There will be some people who really dig her sniper game play. I'm not one of those people. I like to have the option of getting in close and hitting people with my sword. Florida doesn't let me do that. Instead, she has Gun Fire Control Modification 1 which increases her main battery gun range. TALLAHASSEE Flexing his power over one of Floridas largest employers, Gov. Another review done really well. Thanks for your hard work. California is a beautiful port queen that doesn't live up to her fantastic history. Tier VII battleship. If I can help others avoid that, I will. According to FBI data, there were a total of 1.3 million violent offenses reported in 2020, or 388 for every 100,000 people -- a 5% increase from 2019. In their past 10 Looking at the charts, i'm surprised how average Poltava is. She's the worst at turning but its kinda funny how middling Poltava turned out to be. Once you start stacking on any other flaws and they just become unpalatable -- and California's gun handling and reload are some pretty wonky flaws, especially when paired with her slow speed. This screenshot makes me sad. Florida Gov. Alright, that's enough fussing over what is little more than a curiosity. Let's get onto the meat of the matter. I've sorted these by the formula of [ AA dps x { range - 1km} ]. It's not a perfect system but it does weight heavier, longer-ranged firepower over masses of short-ranged defence. March 1, 2023 10:00 am CT. Auburn baseball plays Florida A&M on Wednesday evening, and if youre wondering how you can watch the action live, youve come to the right place. HE pen on cruisers needs to be standardized beyond say national things like Germany having 1/4. I see that champagne wont be a good time for you to review ,but thats okay. California's weapons are only okay at tier VII. Yes, Florida is much cheaper than California because the cost of living is just 1% higher than the national average. Decent gunnery dispersion with 1.9 sigma. March 1, 2023 10:00 am CT. Auburn baseball plays Florida A&M on Wednesday evening, and if youre wondering how you can watch the action live, youve come to the right place. The difference in penetration performance between California and Florida is manifold. Their shells have different masses (555kg for Florida vs 680.4kg for California), different shell velocities due to different drag coefficients (0.271 for Florida vs 0.331 for California) and different Krupp values (2,945 for Florida vs 2,545 for California). As easy as border-humping battleships can be, Florida asks a bit more of players in order to get her to perform. Neither her AP or HE shells are idiot proof, requiring players to be dynamic with their ammunition choices. That's bad enough, but even when you have the right ammo loaded for the right target, her anemic shells leave a lot to be desired, especially with so long of a reload. Even her good improved accuracy can be a bit of a turn off -- at least with bad dispersion even a poorly aimed shot might have something strike the target. Finally, this ship just feels cumbersome with sloppy handling, a slow reload and sluggish turret traverse. Another review done really well. Once upon a time, seeing a ship with this much AA would have made me very excited. Once you start shooting atbroadside targets? Ostensibly, this should allow her to disengage more easily by holding fire but let's not kid ourselves into imagining that she can escape pursuit. Thank you for having the integrity to call WG out on their shenanigans. Enjoy your break, you earn it every time you do one of these. To the best of my knowledge, the statistics discussed in this article are current as of patch 0.9.5.1. Long range is nice, so flex those aiming skills you've acquired, but her gun caliber and long reload will largely limit the impact this has. Florida is an abomination. Florida's great range (especially when upgraded and modified with her Spotter Aircraft consumable) can work against her here, especially with those enterprising shots in the early stages of a match as everyone's deploying. While it can be super-tempting to try your luck against targets spotted early by your own lolibotes or Just Dodge simulators, you can all but guarantee you'll be spotted in return when you pull the trigger. With nothing else to shoot at, you can bet that every battleship on the enemy team that can draw bead on you will take a shot and given Florida's super-squish citadel, bad things will happen if they've got the range. Keep in mind that Florida's rudder is terrible so it's not like she dodges well. This is definitely a risk-reward element at play here, so be careful. Skill Floor: Simple / Casual / CHALLENGING / DifficultSkill Ceiling: Low / Moderate / HIGH / Difficult. Furthermore, it's not going to put off a determined tier VIII carrier even for a moment. The ship is showing to be in the top part of her class per the numbers so far. California's reach partially mitigates this, but only partially. The Florida at tier VII is based on the North Carolina-class of battleships as it was initially designed. After World War I, to stop the naval arms race that was raging between the different nations, multiple treaties were signed, including the Washington Naval Treaty of 1922 and the Second London Naval Treaty of 1936. Tweak are play and all that way, far more interesting. The average cost of living in Florida is about Im gonna judge based on the review its probably a Mehbote. Without allies to road-block, California will be run down, sneaky or not. The issue, though, is that they're not improved enough over the tier VI premium's to be worthwhile. Arizona has better upper-hull armour. This is why I frown on a difference of 0.1 sigma being used as a selling feature -- it's a "spreadsheet" value that will affect a ship over the course of several games but isn't likely to be significant within a single match. Mileage probably determined on if you want a premium USN BB for Narai or not. Florida has access to two different camouflage patterns. By default, she comes with Type 10 Camouflage. However. There's a stigma against lower-calibre guns for having poor penetration performance and this is largely undeserved. American 356mm AP shells, for example, have very good penetration and Florida's is improved even beyond this. She is capable, for example, of penetrating upwards of 400mm worth of plate at 15km. She has more than enough punch to land citadel hits against just about any broadside target, including some of the softer-skinned battleships up to ranges of 20km. So you don't need to worry about Florida not having enough teeth to citadel an Iowa in most encounters, should the opportunity arise. I stress the word opportunity, however.. Small hit point pool for a tier VII battleship. They're perfectly adequate -- I'm not here to tell you that they're broken, bugged, under-performing or what have you. They're well balanced and put out the hurt reasonably well. In fact, they've got a lot of good things going for them including good(ish) fire arcs, good range, decent AP penetration values and that sweet, sweet battlecruiser dispersion. So what's my beef? Heres how you can watch Mondays game: UNC-FLORIDA STATE TV, RADIO, AND STREAMING INFORMATION. However you're paying for the improvements with very crappy gun fire angles. Most of her teeth come from her 40mm Bofors and 20mm Oerlikons, barring a CV being gracious enough to face-plant into a flak-cloud. These do not survive long under HE fire and even cursory smattering of HE rounds will quickly reduce the effectiveness of her AA and open her up to the potential of air-attack. I don't want to touch California. The net effect is that though California has a 20.5 knot top speed, she's usually flirting with much less -- as little as 15.3 knots at 4/4 engine settings. And she gains naught for these handicaps. If they don't want people comparing her to Arizona, Arizona needs to be pulled. The historical design was called for a ship with nine 250 mm guns in three triple turrets with two superfiring at the front and one at the rear. California's protection scheme is decent for a tier VII battleship but it's nothing special either short of her anti-torpedo protection (which is good but not as amazing as the size of her bulges would suggest). You are usually not shot at by much due to how target selection of bots works, so Florida's armor won't be a big issue even with the short combat range in OPs. Furthermore, that big 26mm area is just begging to receive hits from HE spam. Really highlights the value of crossing the T - which, of course, no one doesbecause it doesnt work in WoWS. TV: ESPN ( Watch and stream the game live on ESPN+) RADIO: Tar Heel Sports Network. I wanna gloat like a happy teaboo, but Florida's health is just too appallingly low for me for me to brag with good conscience. Her lacking an entire Repair Party charge just feels mean. Remember when they said rebuiled West Virginia would be to powerful at tier7. Along with either A: removing IFHE or B: changing DCP and Repair Party to have slightly faster CD's and Repair Party to fix more pen damage if IFHE stays. The horrible fire arcs on California's guns will necessitate more manoeuvring to swing out her guns and then duck back which will only ensure she's stuck on the lower end of this speed. California's shells have higher muzzle velocity. Florida can land a lot of hits with her HE shells. She has greatly improved anti-aircraft firepower and she's more stealthy. I wish this could have meant more than it does. You can largely forget applying those brawling skills or getting to cap or even angling to mitigate damage -- it's just not applicable. What's more, California does not offer anything novel in the way of game play short of having better AA firepower. Louisiana: $2,546. Hes played the game since then but you can tell he has not played it much based on HOW he plays some ships. Skill Floor: Simple / CASUAL / Challenging/ DifficultSkill Ceiling: Low / MODERATE / High / Extreme. Great work . as usual. Thank you @LittleWhiteMouse. Phenomenal AA power is watered down more heavily than American Lite Beer. The only thing to watch out for is if one your DD/CL uses smoke and hide all other ships, MO will target you and you don't want that with Florida's armor. Bet now! Florida is pretty much a normal tier VII battleship with an exposed, vulnerable citadel and weak Repair Party. LittleWhiteMouse, October 12, 2020 in General Game Discussion. Are you really inclined to pay to play Arizona with worse matchmaking for the simple sake of being slightly less victimized by aircraft? The best that can be said is that California won't be high on the enemy aircraft's priority list. LOCATION: Donald L. Tucker Center in Tallahassee, Florida. Deposit $200, Get $250. The sales tax in Florida is 6% whereas in California it is 7.25%. Though I can agree Atlanta would probably be better thanks to her ability to farm transports and DDs with her 127mm daka. Solid rearward firing angles, well suited to kiting. Improved penetration on her AP shells for their calibre. California has a boring ol' 14% healed over 28s, not the 16.8% of the KGVs and Hood, the 40% Nelson or even Colorado's 18.48%. Double Down, Ohio! It turns out that even substantially better accuracy often nets only marginally more hitsoften indistinguishable on an engagement to engagement basis.. It's not high-velocity Soviet-good like Poltava's, though, nor does it have Duke of York's improved auto-ricochet angles (which shares the same penetration as KGV). She doesn't have boosted HE shell damage the way Japanese and British battleships do, so she's kind of lackluster there. Like American Lite Beer, the CV rework has a lot to answer for. I find california to have more of a culture than florida. You know it. Florida struggles even more. Don't brawl. You'll die. They are phoenixes that rose from the ashes of Pearl Harbor. I dunno what's going on with California's turrets with her Freedom camouflage. Over on the defensive end, the Panthers California is very sneaky for a tier VII battleship. At best, you might be able to setup an ambush and catch someone unawares but that's not likely to happen -- again because of that lack of speed. The first element is symptomatic of American battleships as a whole, especially the new line of American battleships that Florida heralds. At 33.5 seconds per volley, Florida's reload isn't as bad as some of the others in the new tech-tree, but let's not mince words: It sucks to wait that long between trigger pulls. I can stomach this if the results for waiting are particularly amusing, however Florida's gunnery is an exercise in frustration for me because of my second gripe: Florida's shell hits are not satisfying. Florida's shells, both AP and HE, don't hit especially hard. Their damage values are lower than you might expect for a 356mm weapon. In fact, Florida's damage output on her AP and HE shells is most closely matched by those off the sixteen-gun Lyon. Lyon has only a 30 second reload, I remind you, 3.5 seconds faster than Florida with a four-gun advantage. Compare: Her individual hits just aren't doing as much damage as other American battleships. While she still has better broadside weight than the ten-gun armed New York-class, she's well behind the other twelve-gun armed American standards despite having a better reload time than all of them. This deficit in shell damage (combined with her slower reload) means that in terms of raw damage potential, Florida falls way behind, ending up in the bottom half of the DPM charts despite her large number of guns. The only thing to watch out for is if one your DD/CL uses smoke and hide all other ships, MO will target you and you don't want that with Florida's armor. This is largely owing to what should be her main selling feature being laughable. In World of Warships, Florida represents the design XVI-C if the North Carolina-class would have ever been built this way. She also presents the same battlecruiser characteristics as Champagne and Slava with an improved dispersion but lighter armor than other battleships at her tier. The Gators average only 0.2 more points than the Wildcats allow (69.3). They need radar to have some limitation - be it not going through rocks or only working for the ship using it (and only mini map spots for the team). Florida is the state that more or less stayed open during the pandemic and thrived in its defiance. I swear, she posts these right when I'm off to work now to give other people a chance to reply first :P. Take this review lightly. The most dangerous shots come from medium to long range where shells have a bit of drop going for them to strike beneath the waterline and angle towards the citadel. Mouse, while knowledgeable, is subject to her own personal biases, likes, preferences, just like the rest of us. Had she been strong, I think I could have just sat aside and let people discover that for themselves. You'll probably have to shell out some extra cash for the Freedom camo, whether that will be through a bundle or with doubloons after the fact. Her turning radius of 760m is decent. It's not amazing, but it's alright. Just saw ichase's vid also. I imagine I would like it a lot more than Rado or Calibut, certainly not more than Scharnhorst., Fun things I learned in training matches this week. Main Battery: Twelve 356mm/50 guns in 4x3 turrets in an A-B-X-Y superfiring configuration.Secondary Battery: Sixteen 127mm/38 guns in 8x2 turrets in superfiring pairs on either side of the ship facing fore and aft. Queens are 9-8 in their road games against the spread. But that requires changes well beyond the skill tree, because if we went back 4+ years - sure Germany would still be king of secondary builds with it's 15 cm guns, but French and even ships like Mass would terrorize DD's and cruisers pushing in to caps with secondaries only worried about not getting torped for sailing in a straight line than 152 mm raining death from behind an island - unless it was aiming at the superstructure. Nothing can touch California, though, which sits smack in the middle of the tier VIII American BB range, rubbing elbows with Alabama, North Carolina and everyone's favourite: Massachusetts. One of those was a T8 battle and one a T9.. LittleWhiteMouse, July 2, 2020 in General Game Discussion. I was curious about this ship as i really love playing Arizona. I love playing Arizona but i won't pay to have it at tier 7. This doesn't look like If I were to purchase one, Florida would get my money for sure., Whilst I appreciate the very solid review you have provided for yet another ship, I am far more appreciative of your last few paragraphs on @Critter8and the rest of you folks. Florida man, Florida man Guess the tune. The following is a review of USS Florida, the tier VII American premium battleship. I did not pay fo She has said as much herself in the past. With Arizona existing, Wargaming should have either retired the Pearl Harbor monument or dredged up something from their box o' gimmicks for California to compensate. Unlike my normal dispersion tests, as Arizona and California can't equip the dispersion reducing ASM1 upgrade, their fields look comparatively larger than ships of the same tier. She doesn't have improved heals like the British battleships. Florida's upgrade choices are pretty dull. Sure -- they have better range and much better sigma than New Mexico's. By Florida is 10-6 when scoring more than 69.3 points. Are they good enough to be tier VII guns? You probably want Expert Marksman over Adrenaline Rush on your first pass. To be fair, I might actually like it based on the gun performance, but I have no real use for a squishy BB. California is a slow reloading, reasonably accurate 356mm armed battleship. +4% increased dispersion of enemy shells. I have spent a TON! In Florida, the water is generally colder than in California. Now, Republican Florida Gov. You probably want, Arizona & California's Main Battery Differences. i feel like its an insult to the playerbase that WG expects people to actually spend about 50 bucks on this garbage, truly a waste of devs time and money but isnt that par for the course with WG nowadays? Florida wins this battle hands down. I fear that these buffs will blindside people to what is nothing more than an already existing tier VI premium with a tier VII price tag. Florida's citadel layout tells you all you really need to know about this ship's durability. The TL:DR is that her citadel abuts against the exterior of her hull and it sits above the waterline. With only 285mm worth of belt protection, this exposed "T-section" of her citadel is stupid-easy to bullseye for waterline-aimed shots from enemy battleships. For 380mm+ AP shells aimed at her bows, her transverse bulkhead is almost as vulnerable. I think in this regard the ship is somewhat worth it. But seeing how she was being released reminded me of why I write these reviews in the first place: To protect other players from making bad purchases. Simply put, it's the only thing which makes this ship viable as a tier VII vessel and even then it barely passes muster. I admit a terrible reluctance to call any battleship's AA firepower "good". This said, when a pristine Florida activates her Defensive AA Fire and doubles her DPS, she has good AA firepower. Absolutely. DD's need their stealth back, or they need survivability. Be careful on saying the ship is good because it's performing well. I was looking forward to this review because I was unsure about if I was going to spend some dosh on Florida as a USN fan. California's AP penetration is okay. It's akin to (but not a copy of) the UFO-style acceleration found on British cruisers and destroyers. 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